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AA Decoys Clyde

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This page is locked to prevent accidental updates, as data listed here should be taken from the pages for the sites concerned, and not entered here first.

(:quicktoc:) The Site Name column shows most of the decoy names given in the individual reports for each location.

NOTE Small initial letters such as aN10 are used to overcome a gma recipe bug that fouls up use of the link='name' option.

Google Earth KML data is on the left side of the table below, columns gma1 and VE1. RCAHMS data is to the right side, in columns gma2 and VE2, tagged with RC in the link name, to identify the marker.

Records for SF and C prefix decoys ARE deliberately duplicated, and can appear twice. SF decoys are assigned the records, and C decoys are referred to them. This is simply to allow the two series, SF and C, to be seen as series, so show how complete their sequence is, or is not.

A number of entries direct the reader to use another entry, eg Use SF13d. This is to avoid repeating the same data, and also plotting multiple, identical markers on top of one another, which is confusing and pointless. Google mapping will plot all the markers, but only the marker on top of the pile can be clicked and identified, so those below are of limited value.

Site Name(s) Site No. Site No. Alt OS Grid Ref OS Map gma1 VE1 SeSco Page Notes gma2 VE2
Civil Starfish (SF Series)
Glasgow, Renton, Kipperoch SF13a C15a NS 36700 77600 Multi map ⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.9636 lon=-4.61776 link='sF13a C15a Renton' :) Map jump VE view Kipperoch Decoy SF ⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.9690142 lon=-4.6148793 link='Kipperoch Decoy RC' :) Map jump
⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.9636089 lon=-4.6069830 link='Kipperoch Bunker RC' :) Map jump
VE2 D view
VE2 B view
Glasgow, Douglas Muir SF13b C15d NS 51600 75100 Multi map ⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.946 lon=-4.37792 link='sF13b C15d Douglas Muir' :) Map jump VE view Douglas Muir Decoy SF ⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.9476889 lon=-4.3811873 link='Douglas Muir Decoy RC' :) Map jump
⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.9516324 lon=-4.3771045 link='Douglas Muir Bunker RC' :) Map jump
VE2 D view
VE2 B view
Glasgow, Craigmaddie, Craigmaddie Muir SF13c C15g NS 59400 75900 Multi map ⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.9555 lon=-4.25354 link='sF13c C15g Craigmaddie' :) Map jump VE view Craigmaddie Muir Decoy SF
Site found to contain 4 unknown gun emplacements - see page for info
⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.9582063 lon=-4.2520629 link='Craigmaddie Muir Decoy RC' :) Map jump
⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.9579592 lon=-4.2360280 link='Craigmaddie Muir Newlands Bunker RC' :) Map jump
⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.9547602 lon=-4.2635569 link='Craigmaddie Muir Branziet Bunker RC' :) Map jump
VE2 D view
VE2 NB view
VE2 BB view
Glasgow, Gleniffer Braes SF13d C15k NS 44900 60200 Multi map ⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.8101 lon=-4.47657 link='sF13d C15k Q83a Gleniffer Braes' :) Map jump VE view Gleniffer Braes Decoy SF
C15k and Q83a have same name but NGR differs slightly
⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.8100904 lon=-4.4765183 link='Gleniffer Braes Decoy RC' :) Map jump
⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.8068364 lon=-4.4729601 link='Gleniffer Braes Bunker RC' :) Map jump
VE2 D view
VE2 B view
Glasgow, Eaglesham, Long Wood SF13e --- NS 54100 52300 Multi map ⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.7421 lon=-4.32566 link='sF13e Eaglesham' :) Map jump VE view Long Wood Decoy SF ⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.7429025 lon=-4.3272684 link='Long Wood Decoy RC' :) Map jump
⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.7379112 lon=-4.3250596 link='Long Wood Bunker RC' :) Map jump
VE2 D view
VE2 B view
Glasgow, Parknewk, Blantyre Muir SF13f --- NS 66400 53300 Multi map ⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.7546 lon=-4.13038 link='sF13f Parknewk' :) Map jump VE view Blantyre Muir Decoy SF ⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.7502132 lon=-4.1221393 link='Blantyre Muir Decoy RC' :) Map jump
⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.7553895 lon=-4.1294327 link='Blantyre Muir Bunker RC' :) Map jump
VE2 D view
VE2 B view
Glasgow, Condorrat, Westfield SF13g --- NS 72200 73400 Multi map ⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.9367 lon=-4.0475 link='sF13g Condorrat ' :) Map jump VE view Westfield Decoy SF ⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.9365868 lon=-4.0490637 link='Westfield Decoy RC' :) Map jump
⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.9339197 lon=-4.0473219 link='Westfield Bunker RC' :) Map jump
VE2 D view
VE2 B view
Glasgow, Townhead, Gartcosh SF13h --- NS 70100 66100 Multi map ⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.8706 lon=-4.07758 link='sF13h Townhead ' :) Map jump VE view Gartcosh Decoy SF ⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.8705044 lon=-4.0775488 link='Gartcosh Decoy RC' :) Map jump VE2 D view
Glasgow, Auchenreoch SF13j C15b NS 42300 78100 Multi map ⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.97 lon=-4.52844 link='sF13j Auchenreoch ' :) Map jump VE view Auchenreoch Decoy SF ⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.9698552 lon=-4.5315956 link='Auchenreoch Decoy RC' :) Map jump
⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.9647192 lon=-4.5322216 link='Auchenreoch Bunker RC' :) Map jump
VE2 D view
VE2 B view
???
Newcastle, Whitburn
SF15e C12a NS 39500 63100 Multi map ⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.8344 lon=-4.56435 link='sF15e C12a Newcastle, Whitburn' :) Map jump VE view --- SF
?? Info Error ?? This NGR lies in Renfrew, west of Kilbarchan
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Civil QL and QF (C Series)
Glasgow, Renton, Kipperoch C15a SF13a NS 36700 77600 Use SF13a Use SF13a Use SF13a Use SF13a SF Use SF13a Use SF13a
Glasgow, Auchenreoch C15b SF13j NS 42300 78100 Use SF13j Use SF13j Use SF13j Use SF13j SF Use SF13j Use SF13j
Glasgow, Edenbarnet, Cochno Hill C15c NS 49600 75300 Multi map ⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.9472 lon=-4.41003 link='C15c Edenbarnet' :) Map jump VE view Cochno Hill Edenbarnet Decoy QF/QL
Location variation! RCAHMS gives NS 4806 7468
⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.9410787 lon=-4.4342695 link='Cochno Hill Edenbarnet Decoy RC' :) Map jump VE2 D view
Glasgow, Douglas Muir C15d SF13b NS 51600 75100 Use SF13b Use SF13b Use SF13b Use SF13b QL Use SF13b Use SF13b
Glasgow, Craigmaddie C15e --- NS 57600 77300 Multi map ⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.9676 lon=-4.28309 link='C15e Craigmaddie' :) Map jump VE view Use Craigmaddie Muir Decoy OR Craigend Decoy QF/QL
Use SF13c OR C15f as this point sits in middle of 3 Craigend points
Use SF13c OR C15f Use SF13c OR C15f
Glasgow, Craigend C15f --- NS 58400 77800 Multi map ⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.9723 lon=-4.27055 link='C15f Craigend' :) Map jump VE view Craigend Decoy QL ⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.9704549 lon=-4.2848266 link='Craigend Decoy RC' :) Map jump
⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.9751123 lon=-4.2953592 link='Craigend Bunker, possible location RC' :) Map jump
VE2 D view
VE2 B view
Glasgow, Craigmaddie C15g SF13c NS 59400 75900 Use SF13c Use SF13c Use SF13c Use SF13c QL Use SF13c Use SF13c
Glasgow, Peathill Wood C15h --- NS 59900 76000 Multi map ⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.9566 lon=-4.24559 link='C15h Peathill Wood' :) Map jump VE view --- QL No RCAHMS entry Mar 2007 ---
Glasgow, Kilsyth C15i --- NS 71500 79900 Multi map ⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.9948 lon=-4.0618 link='C15i Kilsyth' :) Map jump VE view --- QL No RCAHMS entry Mar 2007 ---
Glasgow, Banton, Drumnessie C15j --- NS 73600 81500 Multi map ⚠ (:gma-point lat=56.0098 lon=-4.02891 link='C15j Banton' :) Map jump VE view Drumnessie Decoy QF/QL ⚠ (:gma-point lat=56.0094132 lon=-4.0253280 link='Drumnessie Decoy RC' :) Map jump
⚠ (:gma-point lat=56.0012739 lon=-4.0393360 link='Drumnessie Bunker RC' :) Map jump
VE2 D view
VE2 B view
Glasgow, Gleniffer Braes C15k SF13d Q83a NS 44600 60000 Multi map ⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.8082 lon=-4.48123 link='C15k SF13d Q83a Gleniffer Braes' :) Map jump VE view Use SF13d Q
SF13d same name, NGR differs slightly. Q83a same NGR, name differs slightly
Use SF13d Use SF13d
Ardeer, West Kilbride C59a --- NS 20000 49700 Multi map ⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.7073 lon=-4.86646 link='C59a Ardeer, West Kilbride' :) Map jump VE view --- QF
See also A28 with same NGR
No RCAHMS entry Mar 2007 ---
Ayr, Heads of Ayr C76a --- NS 28500 18700 Multi map ⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.4321 lon=-4.71209 link='C76a Ayr, Heads of Ay' :) Map jump VE view --- QF/QL No RCAHMS entry Mar 2007 ---
Irvine, Drybridge C77a --- NS 34800 35800 Multi map ⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.5878 lon=-4.62282 link='C77a Irvine, Drybridge' :) Map jump VE view --- QF No RCAHMS entry Mar 2007 ---
Army Decoy (A Series)
Ardeer, West Kilbride A28 C59a NS 20000 49700 Multi map ⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.7073 lon=-4.86646 link='A28 C59a Ardeer, West Kilbride' :) Map jump VE view --- QF
See also C59a with same NGR
No RCAHMS entry Mar 2007 ---
Naval Decoy (N Series)
Greenock & Gourock, Auchmead N28 GG1 NS 23400 76000 Multi map ⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.9445 lon=-4.82951 link='gG1 Auchmead' :) Map jump VE view Auchmead Decoy SF
GG1 or GC1? (Misprint/typo in record?)
⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.9471149 lon=-4.8328533 link='Auchmead Control Bunker RC' :) Map jump
⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.9463278 lon=-4.8279902 link='Auchmead Generator Bunker RC' :) Map jump
VE2 D view
VE2 B view
Greenock & Gourock, Whitelees N28 GG2 NS 27600 73200 Multi map ⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.9209 lon=-4.76056 link='gG2 Whitelees' :) Map jump VE view Whitelees Decoy SF ⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.9230221 lon=-4.7617764 link='Whitelees Decoy RC' :) Map jump VE2 D view
Greenock & Gourock, Whitelees N28 GG3 Use entry above Use entry above Use entry above Use entry above Use entry above SF Listed only as '3' in RCAHMS GG2 Whitelees entry, so use entry above Use entry above
Greenock & Gourock, Isle of Bute N28 BU1 NS 01100 74800 Multi map ⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.9251 lon=-5.18514 link='bU1 Isle of Bute' :) Map jump VE view --- SF/QL No RCAHMS entry Mar 2007 ---
Greenock & Gourock, Isle of Bute N28 BU2 NS 03400 73000 Multi map ⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.9099 lon=-5.14708 link='bU2 Isle of Bute' :) Map jump VE view --- SF/QL No RCAHMS entry Mar 2007 ---
RAF Airfield Decoy
Abbotsinch, Gleniffer Braes Q83a --- NS 44600 60000 Multi map Use C15k Use C15k Use SF13d Q
SF13d same name, NGR differs slightly. C15k same NGR, name differs slightly
Use SF13d Use SF13d
Ayr, Newark Hill Q122a --- NS 2979 1620 Multi map ⚠ (:gma-point lat=55.4101 lon=-4.69004 link='Q122a Ayr, Newark Hill' :) Map jump VE view --- Q
NGR is reverse-calc from lat/lon!
No RCAHMS entry Mar 2007 ---

Observations

  1. Edenbarnet KML and RCAHMS locations are widely separated
  2. Craigend and Craigmaddie locations seem to be mixed together between KML and RCAHMS
  3. SF15e given as Newcastle, Whitburn, with NGR point landing near Renfrew, west of Kilbarchan, so clearly is suspect
    • August 25, 2007. Information from wartime resident of Kilbarchan that they have no knowledge of a decoy ever having existed nearby
  4. Glasgow, Edenbarnet, C15c has differing locations between GE KML and RCAHMS data
  5. Glasgow, Craigmaddie, C15e is suspect as it lies in the midst of 3 Craigend NGR points

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