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Apollo
June 6, 2009, 12:48pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Now you know why cars have such odd names, as the manufacturers try and get one that will work around the world, and not mean poo in one on them.

Those who follow the Touring Cars, but weren't keen enough to follow them to their first visits to Knockhill won't have seen the fun they had, when the guys that did the driver's names for the car windows added "mac" before all the names, and the live commentator tried to remember to use the new Scottish names.

Somebody suggested that Bing! was an imaginative name chosen to mimic the sound of bell ringing when you have a good idea.
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June 6, 2009, 1:21pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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There is often a bit lost or gained in translation.  Example from Lidl  " Nougat Pillows  ".   These do not sell very well here as few people fancy nougat.   If they were called " Caramel Pillows ", which they are, they would sell much better.  I reccommend them if you like sweet breakfast cereals.
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The Fox
June 19, 2009, 9:18pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Well, having been binging about for a few weeks Bing may indeed be the Holy Grail of search engines as it does not seem to repeat pages already listed.  Hooray for the creator.
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June 19, 2009, 11:32pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Well, having been binging about for a few weeks Bing may indeed be the Holy Grail of search engines as it does not seem to repeat pages already listed.  Hooray for the creator.


Is that a recommend then ?   Has the google-isation of planet earth been thwarted?  

Always been a Clusty fan meeself.

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The Fox
June 20, 2009, 8:38am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Yes I think it is a recommendation.  It is hard to compare the info it puts up with other engines but it seems adequate to me but the real bonus is not getting the same site up time after time just because your search words are on the site more than once.

I happily de-Googled!
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You might think this an odd selection from the pool of possible serches, but you might like it.

All I can suugest is giving at a try - ignore the language since the original is in German - and just throw your search terms into the obvious box.

After a few tries, it should be fairly obvious the way it lists stuff for you, and groups with totals found, rather than giving a long listing of stuff.

http://www.wefind.com/

As an example, my first search brought this up in the Pictures section, a surviving Bofors gun inside an AA battery. I wonder how much a British setup resembled this? Still haven't vound a decent online pic of one - maybe one day...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sameli/sets/72157607596611097/
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June 20, 2009, 10:33am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Interesting pictures!  Bofors - original design from Sweden, made under licence elsewhere.  Did you spot that the Finnish gun was made by Alfred Graham & Co. Ltd. London?
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Apollo
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It's NOT a search as such, so don't look on it as such, or you will not do very well.

If you know what the Magic 8 Ball is, then you will something of an idea of what Hunch does.

At the moment, it's only been running for a week or so, so obviously suffers from a lack of input, but you never know, it might be crazy enough to work...

http://www.hunch.com/
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Apollo
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Here's a new search engine which I found to be a touch alarming:

http://www.yasni.com/
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About yasni:

Yasni is the world's most popular people search engine with more than 10 million visitors worldwide each month. More and more people turn to Yasni to find information about old friends, co-workers, business partners, job applicants, neighbors, prospective mates and much more. Yasni crawls more than a hundred people related websites within seconds and provides you with any publicly available information such as web links, addresses, phone numbers, email addresses, social network profiles, pictures, videos and news.


The alarm is not so much about having a search engine geared to finding people and personal information, wherever it may be scattered about the web (though I find it makes a great source for starting an Identity Theft assault without having to tax my abilities too hard), but more because it quickly shows where I appear around the web.

I know the handful of places where I've publicised my "real" self and some of my research, and after running through the most basic yasni search for myself, am amazed to find where I have ended up, appearing on web sites and being quoted in places I've never heard of, and on web sites I wouldn't touch with the proverbial barge pole.
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Ye gods, that is worse then the directory enquiries site I found that suggests for a fee it will give extra information on exdirectory numbers.  It also shows the subscriber's house on Google.

Bing is not as good at rejecting pages already shownas I thought at first but it doesn't seem to show duplicates very often.

Th holy grail remains elusive.
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On the whole, I've been impressed by Bing - despite the name (which I think is just too cheesy) and doesn't lend itself to being used as a verb in the way that Google does, even though I never have, and never will, google, or be caught googling something.

There are too many "ings", and binging something just sounds terrible, and doesn't roll off the tongue neatly.

Clusty - despite not suffering the same high profile - continues to provide search results the supposed "leaders" don't find, and still remains at the top of my tree.
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Here's an interesting review/summary worth remembering when you can't find something (and even good ol' Clusty gets a mention - but so small, but Bing is so small too)...

The small search engines: Bing, Baidu, Scour, Clusty | Technology | guardian.co.uk

There's no shortage of choice if you want to search the web, but most people stick with one, or at most two. In the US, the most diverse market, the research company Compete gives the rankings as Google 74%, Yahoo 16%, Microsoft's Bing 6%, Ask 2% and AOL (powered by Google) 1%.

That leaves about 1% for the rest to squabble over, though that still translates into 100m searches in one month alone – and that's only in the US. Worldwide, in the past quarter Google has more than 80% of searches, while Yahoo and Bing have 9% and 5% respectively, a situation Microsoft hopes to change next year.

But there are many other search engines for the web. Altavista, Excite and Lycos – ancient names from the 1990s – collectively still have about 0.1% of the market globally.

It's the new names, though, that are raising interest. Cuil, launched by ex-Googlers to great fanfare in July 2008, has gained little traction since. Wolfram Alpha describes itself as a "web resource" whose aim is to "make the world's knowledge computable" – in effect, be a search engine that can be accessed by computer programs rather than humans. Other specialist search engines include Scour, Clusty (which "clusters" results), and, for those who want a visual presentation, Kartoo. Nationally, Yandex in Russia and Baidu in China far exceed Google for market share, but are almost unused outside those countries.

However, there is one "search" that Google covets more than any other: Twitter's. Though the archive of what has been said on the fast-growing message service now barely stretch back a fortnight, Google executives have repeatedly expressed a desire to integrate what Twitter knows about current events into their search engine. Rumours of a linkup persist; it will be interesting to see whether the Microsoft-Yahoo tie-up prompts Google into a similar marriage with Twitter.
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"For the past several months a large team of Googlers has been working on a secret project: a next-generation architecture for Google's web search," said the company in a statement on one of its blogs.

"It's the first step in a process that will let us push the envelope on size, indexing speed, accuracy, comprehensiveness and other dimensions."

The company claims that significant changes to the way the system works will improve the experience for users, but the work has a magical plus-point, and will also send shockwaves through the community of marketers who try and optimise their results to appear higher up in Google's index.

I hate these people (known as SEOs, search engine optimisers) with a passion, and the news that their "hard work" (conning people into paying them vast sums to push their names up the search ranks artificially) is music to my ears. I would gladly line them up amongst the front ranks of my "First against the wall when the revolution comes" club.

The Fox should hate them too, as they are solely responsible for skewing search results (not Google, or Bing, or Yahoo etc) to provide useless high-ranking answers when you try and do any serious online research, meaning you have to create "imaginative" search strings to weed out the ribbush and return what you really want
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I haven't used this much, but have found it to be a handy jumping-off point to get to other search engines as it lists many of them, so saves yoy fro remembering their names, or having umpteen links.

Also, well worth looking at their offerings on the "Advanced" search option link:

All the Internet Search Engine. Home
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I have to report that Bing is no longer the Holy Grail of search engines. As time goes by more multiple showings of the same sites appear.  I imagine that given time the bots dig deeper into sites and find more mentions of the search word(s).
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Aw, that's shame, but I believe your appraisal is correct.

Still, on a more positive note, I can still say that my engine of choice - Clusty - still does a nice job of trawling up responses that the the big two fail to catch.

In fact, some of them never find the same results, which is a little odd. Even doing a fairly tight and targeted search using them fails to bring up some of Clusty's finds, which suggest there is some sort of bias or selective blocking in place - and that's just a little worrying, be it on the part of those searching, or those being searched.
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Although I'm not a Google user - seriously, I don't have to use it because almost everyone else does, so there's no point checking anything "new" I'm told about there, since that's probably where it will have come from - but I did come across an interesting tie-up between a Google search and a Wolfram Alpha search, where you can have the two covered simultaneously and side by side:

Goofram - Search Google and Wolfram Alpha at the same time!

It's a bit of gimmick in some ways, but to be absolutely fair, it is also rather good if you are searching on something which has factual and numerically quantifiable results, as the Wolfram Alpha results stay in view, helping to rank and dismiss the mass of results returned by Google
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I see our maps have beeen renamed as Bing now.

Did you see Sony computers will now come with Chrome.
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Yes. I tripped over one of the developer's blogs, with the correct names, so it seemed time to clear out the old.

I'm not sure if it's Sony, but Google have a deal to bundle their Chrome browser so that it can later be integrated with some of the Google toys that they host. Stuff like their word processor and spreadsheet, mail etc, and with their other services, so it can be optimised for speed and rendering.

I didn't really pay too much attention though, as another browser has all these things well covered already
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