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Apollo
December 9, 2005, 9:51pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Thought there was a thread on this already, guess I was wrong...

Recently released http://geo.nls.uk/

Not to be confused with online mapping like streetmap etc. these are proper survey maps with useful ground level detail.

http://geo.nls.uk/indexes/info.html

This pilot application illustrates web-mapping search methods to retrieve geo-referenced records for all Ordnance Survey National Grid paper maps for Scotland at 1:2,500 and 1:1,250 scales. Although the OS maps themselves are not viewable, this project makes essential map details available remotely for the first time. These include 45,000 records for sheet maps, surveyed between 1944 and 1991, in the National Library of Scotland's collections.
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I haven't had to do a crosscheck with Flash Earth for a while, so is it just me, or can no-one else see Google in the list of available views now?

Maybe the lawyers finally caught up with the fella, as his use of their data (and all the others for that matter) actually breaks their ToU (Terms of Use), and has been unauthorised since day one.
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June 5, 2008, 9:47pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Yes I noticed it had disappeared last night.  It was still there a few days ago.
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Captain Brittles
June 5, 2008, 10:23pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Aye its missing.
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June 5, 2008, 11:10pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Aw, shame.

Must be the lawyers at work then.

Oh well
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The Fox
June 9, 2008, 2:44pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Google seems to have returned to the Flashearth screens.
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June 9, 2008, 4:36pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Not here
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More and more strange.  It is not there on IE7 but is present and correct on Firefox.  Just tried them both.
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Nope... still not Gooooooogle viewing in IE or Fx, but I did find that someone has been busy with a paintpot!  

http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=55.79302&lon=-4.867179&z=20&r=296&src=msl
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I am still getting good reception on fx.
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Don't know what The Fox is looking at (and presumably is not looking any more) but Google has indeed officially gone from Flash Earth at their request - seems a backward step for a company that seeks publicity, but there you go.

I truly hate the new layout, with the menus and options plastered over the view unless you opt to go full-screen, and hope they will be restored to the edges of the screen, but I suspect I may be disappointed.

On the other hand, without the option of flipping between Google and VE aerial views, there's not really much reason to go back to Flash Earth if you're in the UK or wanting hi-res ground views.

There used to be an alternative from ocarto but it now seems to work only with Google, and not the others, so you can't win.

While I have plenty of alternative map views, none of them offer the similar option of switching the same view from alternative providers, so it looks like the end of and era.
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Yep it has gone and I am not impressed with what I see.  I guess I'll have to find another use for firefox!
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Just to let anyone that might use the option know (if not already noticed), but our Multimap map links to aerial and OS views of subject areas have now packed up altogether - presumably in response to formatting changes on high at Multimap Towers.

I can't be bothered hunting down the change again - they just changed the coding recently and I've already had to recode to suit - and will just get around to it at some time when I'm bored. The links are not essential as Live Search provides the same aerial views now anyway.

In the meantime, the Multimap views are still fine if you whizz onto the desired location manually.

If you only want the aerial view, then just use Virtual Earth instead, that's the Microsoft Live Search option. As noted, this is the same, and is the one with the Bird's Eye views.

If you want the OS mapping, then Live Search is no good - it's the American version, so you'll have to get the OS view by hand on Multimap, or use the OS Get-a-map option, smaller and less convenient, but at least our link will place on the same spot and save you the effort of having to find it.

Thank goodness Google are commercially oriented, and can't afford to foul up their map user base. Their coding may have become huge and complex, but at least their changes don't usually break anything fundamental.
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Cancel the above message (I'm leaving it for reference though, rather than deleting it).

Curiosity got the better of me a few hours later, and I spent a few minutes poking around the code to see what might have changed.

I couldn't see anything significant - although their method of providing shortcut links has indeed changed, though I don't know when since I don't need or use them - and when I tried our aerial and OS map views, found that these were once again working as expected.

I suspect I may just have been unfortunate, and needed to used these just as some changes were going through - regardless, it's nice to see them working properly again, and appreciate them just a little bit more
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Slightly off-topic but I feel duty bound to report the sighting of a parked up google van complete with covered up camera antenna thingwy ont' roof of same in Laburnum Road, Cumbernauld last Saturday.
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Well spotted.

There have been other reports in Glasgow in the past few weeks, and we can only wait and see how long it takes to go from street to screen now, assuming Privacy International does not succeed in having them (and maybe us) banned.
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Cumbernauld?  Why?  Mind you it could be quite economical.  Do one street and pass it off as dozens!

My best memory of the place was in the early 1960s, on the Glasgow /Falkirk bus which passed through Cumbernauld which was under construction at the time.  One Sunday night , in a fog the driver turned left at what he thought was the junction and we ended up in a field.  As construction raced ahead the bus drivers frequently got lost.  All this was before they built the carbuncle.
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Not just Cumbernauld!

When the green buses used to run between Glasgow and Edinburgh, we had the same problem, and not in the fog either. We ended up touring an industrial estate somewhere along the M8 as the totally confused bus driver tried to find a road, any road, that would get us back onto the motorway

I'd like to put a good word in for Cumbernauld. Yes, it has its downsides and carbuncles, but what town doesn't, and it did separate the people from the traffic. Just because that brought side-effects that the people, or at least the noisy, complaining types, didn't like doesn't mean the whole place deserved the subsequent beatings it has received. A case, I think, of bullying.

I even appreciated the town centre, until it started to suffer from desertion. As a "shops only" creation, it only took the departure of a few traders to turn parts of it into a desert where no-one wanted to go.

I'd suggest the Anderston Centre in Glasgow suffered from the same deficit.

Interesting to see that both places went the same way, and were "adjusted" using an extremely large hammer!
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Heads up on a new BBC series which makes use of satellite technology to create stunning images of Britain from above.

Mark Sanders reports.

Andrew Marr presents the series Britain from Above, the first episode of which will be broadcast on Sunday, August 10, at 21:00 on BBC One.

The shorts in the trailer are indeed stunning as the intro says. I don't have any hopes of ever holding a PPL (Private Pilot's Licence), but was able to get a bit of training which included commercial flight operations, and actually seeing the 3D visualisation of of aircraft stacking in a circular holding pattern is amazing, as this is something you can visualise in your mind as a concept, imagining what your aircraft is doing relative to the ground, and those around you doing the same with only instruments and flight control to tell you where you are in space, and what your speed, direction, and altitude should be at any given moment.

I'll probably miss it now (thank goodness for the BBC's iPlayer - the only thing with an "i" at the start of its name that I don't spontaneously reach for a hammer and want to smash when I see it).
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Cumbernauld?  Why?  


The van was parked, doesn't mean to infer anything other than the driver lived in the street, handy for driving into the badlands maybe.

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